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no, its because your armor is like -800 with faerie fire, u got -650 thats horrible, if knew how to fight against a titan it would be really to beat me… highest hp in the game doesnt mean shit if you dont got the mana to heal it.... titans should do alot of damage because there mana is so low, i think minos should get something because in pk with low mana you cant do shit.. i much rather be a drow with a ton of mana and a extra defense, i can barely ever kill a drow maxxed remort.. my extra attacks dont do shit against them its not like i got much over everyone else, just 1 fucking attack.. oooooo
i cant cast spells but i got ONE more attack... oooo
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armor or not…damn, even my 3 year old niece can do math.
8 attacks, at full damage, averaging 300, is how much arkain? yes, 2400\. good...bc those of us that can count know that 300 times 8 is 2400.
now, sanc is half.
thats 1200.
that doesnt include vuln damage, or anything else.
and weapons actually average, give or take, like 360, depending...
and 360 times 8 is......*drumroll for arkain to count on his hands and feet, w00ps, too high to use!* 2880, by half, is 1440 a round with sanc. even if, in that example, AC kicks in and lowers the damage by a few hundred per round, you STILL get 1200 per round.
now, i have like a shitload more mana. doesnt do me any good if i have to burn it all healing...500 a round vs 1200 a round. i have to last twice as long as you do mana wise to be able to last long enough to burn yours out. and with 4500 hp, 1200 takes about.., yes counting again...4 rounds.
am i getting through to you? *does the aflecks "fictional characters retard stance" from jay and silent bob*
its not that hard to see, if you just open your eyes.
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o, and on a side, slightly related note…
back in the day, before all these changes...i was killing ppl with 1000 more hp and mana, and killing in droves. even i cant beat how the system functions when its changed, or altered, or anything else. so that crap about "i dont have any mana" doesnt fucking work with me. just something else for you to think about while you excuse your way outta the truth here.
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how many rounds do i actually hit 8 times soth? huh? you forget about defenses? i barely get 2-3 hits off in 1 round.. u say it like i get 8 hits every round, rofl…
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again, its not the point. i know you skipped the examples bc you cant count. its ok. the entire exercise that you completely missed was to show that your damage is ramped up higher than it should be, regardless. i've used dual justice swords, which are lightining, andi cant do half the damage you are. just strikes me as odd.
and stop challenging me all the time. it makes you look like a moron, and i just dont give a shit enough to wanna bother. pk is boring. its not something we are all doing. its just you. have fun doing whatever, loser.
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> again, its not the point. i know you skipped the examples bc you cant count. its ok. the entire exercise that you completely missed was to show that your damage is ramped up higher than it should be, regardless. i've used dual justice swords, which are lightining, andi cant do half the damage you are. just strikes me as odd.
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> and stop challenging me all the time. it makes you look like a moron, and i just dont give a shit enough to wanna bother. pk is boring. its not something we are all doing. its just you. have fun doing whatever, loser.
ROFL, i have 1 more attack then anyway but i do soooo much more damage? ya fucking right.. what are you smokin soth? share with me
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I'm sorry, but where are you guys getting these 8 attacks? I count 7, and please tell me if I miss one (unless you're just counting bash or circle or some crap).
1: first
2: second
3: third
4: fourth
5: haste
6: dual wield
7: titanic attack
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Oh and Darigaaz haste and dual weild give extra attacks so there would be 8 or 9 attacks. If you do the math so hence why having about 3 or 4 more attacks then others is MOSTLY unfair. I don't know if I'm doing the math wrong cuz i can only do 5 attacks sometimes 6 if lucky and thats with all the spells and such but to have alot of attacks in a round as to do with hitroll right?
just me 2 pennies
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I don't have a lot to add to this at this point besides STOP THE PISSING CONTEST
lets try to share our ideas and opinions in a grown-up way. Also, I don't know much about titans, but I'd like to see all 8 attacks listed?
eRT
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Well since the server is down or the server just doesn't want me to get on cuz it don't like me I will fight a titan and send you the list or watch which ever floats your boat :)
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rofl, ya i get 8-9 attacks hahahahhahahhahahahha…. tahts the stupidest think ive ever heard, sense im the only remort titan, i think id know how many attacks i get, i get from anywhere from 4-8, the way you guys are talking is that i get 8-9 attacks and they hit everytime, i barely ever get 8attacks, even with em all mastered, even if i do get 8 attacks, only like 2-3 actually HIT them
- arkain
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~~@Arkain:~~
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> > for lack of "making excuses", i'd have to agree.
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> > you also forgot earlier about using two handed weapons, in one hand. :)
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> > obvious, a balance would be limiting the amount of attacks titans get, to level it to where they have the same as everyone else..but effectively negates things like titanic attack. that could be restructured as something of a "circle" skill, extra damage, same one round lag, ect.
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> > just my 2 cents.
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> the same could be said about drow, 1 vul plus a extra attack and 2nd highest mana in the game….. thats alittle overpowered too.. every race has its ups and downs titans is a extra attack and lame ass mana... and a vuln to lightning which there isnt alot of shocking weapons/lightning damage spells...
We have the 2nd highest mana in the game and the 2nd LOWEST hp..i have 3500 hp max…just cuz you cant beat me doesnt mean you have to bitch about it :P And it's extra defense..not attack
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its just as big of advantage or bigger then a extra attack i think, im already start alts because of titans gay ass mana, and the titans have the 2nd lows mana, so its just about the same as drow, each races has ups and downs, just because titans get a extra attack doesnt mean there "THAT" much better then any other race.. there vul and mana make up for the fact that they need to do more damage because they cant heal as much
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so your complaining and then the max mana will fo up for titans to make them even more powerful plz what everyone else is saying is true but you dont want to hear it cuz your to freaken stupid to open your eyes man you can't stand being wrong can you Ark?
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no, im not bitchin so the titans Mana gets highered, if you red what i put, u would have noticed that i was giving exmaples that each race has advantages and disadvangates…. think dumbass
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in following what ertai said…
There isnt a way to remove anything from titan, or give it, that would preserve balance. from something i posted earlier, removing an attack would simply negate titanic attack. giving them more mana would start to unbalance things.
so lets go from that...
What other races...and not drow, since we see that here, need a balancing act? put it in another thread, continue here....personally, i'd like to see what someone else thinks...
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i honestly think minotaurs need something, there are by far the worst pk race now, lowest mana and nothing special..
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i dont disagree. there were some powerful mino's tho, but they could use something, statwise or skillwise. i'll think about it, come back after dinner and workout, and see if i have something new.
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Okay. I started this topic so that we could get some productive comments and suggestions going. I didn't want for you people to argue with and insult each other. I back Ertai up 100%. Stop the damn pissing contest. It's going to get both sides nowhere fast.
I may be wrong, but I think here's the 8 possible attacks:
1.first (global)
2.second (global)
3.third (warrior)
4.fourth (destroyer)
5.haste
6.dual
7.titanic (titan)
8.dual with haste (haste does give you an extra attack on your second weapon right?)
okay, also one thing to add is that one of those weapons can be a 2 handed weapon, which of course will do much more damage than a normal weapon. So perhaps it would be LIKE having more than 8\. but as far as I can see you wouldn't get more than 8\. Now it could LOOK that way, if you hit the tick just right, it'd look like 16 or so.
'Arkain is right about something though. Not ALL of those attacks would necessarily hit every time. BUT, the potential is there.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, in a CIVIL MANNER PLEASE.
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I get five attacks at the most:
First attack
Haste
Second attack
Third attack
Duel wield
