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Yeah Sith, especially at early levels, seem to have a really hard time. I know the few Sith I've made, no matter what the class, got owned for a while in the newbie area, whereas other races I made chars for, would breeze through.
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for lack of "making excuses", i'd have to agree.
you also forgot earlier about using two handed weapons, in one hand. :)
obvious, a balance would be limiting the amount of attacks titans get, to level it to where they have the same as everyone else..but effectively negates things like titanic attack. that could be restructured as something of a "circle" skill, extra damage, same one round lag, ect.
just my 2 cents.
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Could always hold a tournament for titans, call it… wait for it....
CLASH OF THE TITANS!
The winner of each class group gets to keep all of their titan abilities.
The losers get trimmed down. :)
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~~@Solstice:~~
> I used to play a titan and I agree completely
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> Titans are way overpowered
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> I mean come on, the most hp of any race, PLUS an extra attack to shake things up a bit?
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> And high strength and con don't hurt
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> An extra vuln would be a very happy thing
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> And one that is common would be even better
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> I mean come on, sith get owned when it comes to that and all they have going for them is natural hunt and toxins
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> They have shitty hp, decent mana, and vuln to fire and piercing?
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> That covers almost ever weapon in the book guys
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> All I'm saying is that titans should get AT least somthing to tone it down some
highest hp doesnt do shit against a drow or a elf, u forget they got the 2nd lowest hp.. and the vuln to lightning does alot if u spam it
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~~@Soth:~~
> for lack of "making excuses", i'd have to agree.
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> you also forgot earlier about using two handed weapons, in one hand. :)
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> obvious, a balance would be limiting the amount of attacks titans get, to level it to where they have the same as everyone else..but effectively negates things like titanic attack. that could be restructured as something of a "circle" skill, extra damage, same one round lag, ect.
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> just my 2 cents.
the same could be said about drow, 1 vul plus a extra attack and 2nd highest mana in the game….. thats alittle overpowered too.. every race has its ups and downs titans is a extra attack and lame ass mana... and a vuln to lightning which there isnt alot of shocking weapons/lightning damage spells...
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the same could be said about drow, 1 vul plus a extra attack and 2nd highest mana in the game….. thats alittle overpowered too.. every race has its ups and downs titans is a extra attack and lame ass mana... and a vuln to lightning which there isnt alot of shocking weapons/lightning damage spells...
Drow don't have an extra attack you fucking idiot
And lets see
Extra attack + highest hp in the game, + can dual 2 handers?
Only one other class can dual 2handers and they have to wait until remort
Maybe it should be a collossus skill, but definitly not a titan skill
And I don't see why dragons and titans, both being good aligned, can dual 2 handers while no evil classes can
I mean, vampires are supposed to be superhumanly strong, and minotaurs are too?
So why can't they do it?
But hey what the fuck I must just be making excuses too because I must suck like Soth and Redraven right??
We just make excuses to make up for our shortcomings right guys?
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Really, at least one of the evil classes should be able to weild a two handed in weapon in one hand.. I'm leaning more towards Mino on that one. Nice observation though, never really thought about that ^^
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titans dont have mana thats that bad..
yes, every race has ups and downs.
guess it just depends on perspective.
Soth
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I think Titans should have some sort of mana deficiency, and maybe not be able to cast spells as effectively to boot. They're supposed to be big dumb warriors right? So leave them with their physical boost, but make their magic pay for it. Hey Xevira, you're the resident genius around here… what do you think?
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yeah i agree about this one, they have a bit much hitting power
whenever i'm finished with my changes to memory, i'll have a look at it
please feel free to remind me in a few weeks if i forget
or even better, remind ertai!
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Hmm.. you all seem to have a good point here about Titan. I never looked at the race differences __that__ much. I think taking away the holding of two-handed weapons in one hand until remort would definitely help the balance. Is Titanic Attack very powerful? I'm afraid I've never really played as Titan, so I have no idea. I don't know about the evil class wielding two-handed in one hand… aren't Mino's already powerful enough?
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I don't think the holding the two-handed in one hand should be taken away. It seems like a reasonable thing for a Titan. I think it should be more of a magic deficiency myself. Perhaps doubling the time it takes them to cast spells. Or increasing it a bit anyway
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ROFL yes, just fuck over the titans because im the only good one
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Hey I was gonna be a good one too ya know. Pretty sure I was gonna go the same classes as you too :P And everyone knows I'm sexier :D
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you guys are not thinkin of titans have the highest hp, which dont mean much when there sp is gay.. if ppl knew what they were doing they would just poion/plague and just heal and they could easily out heal me and win… almost all remorts have as much hp as me with eq and i have like 400-500 less mana then them... ya thats balance.. i think minos should also get 2 handed weapons in one hand because there sp is the worst and id say there the worst race for pk now.. they need something more
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arkain, you child.
its not about you, dumbass. and if you dont believe you do 1200 per round, i'd be happy to demonstrate it again. you cant say i did even half of that with any weapon i am using. just the amount of attacks you recieve in a round could do that much on just an average hit (i know you are slow, but 1200 divided by 8 is 150 per hit…not unreasonable) vs the amount i am doing. then add in any vulns you are tossing in...theres an increase. so can you now tell me that doing 1200 is bullshit? doesnt look like it here. if i was doing even something close (and your AC doesnt have jack to do with the example), prolly wouldnt be an issue.
besides, if everyone gets a titan bc they are powerful, that unbalances other races bc who would wanna play something thats not strong?
take a few hours, think on the first sentences, continue talking crap arkain...you are the only one who feels slighted bc you know these things are the only way ur winning. truth hurts.
Soth
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no, its because your armor is like -800 with faerie fire, u got -650 thats horrible, if knew how to fight against a titan it would be really to beat me… highest hp in the game doesnt mean shit if you dont got the mana to heal it.... titans should do alot of damage because there mana is so low, i think minos should get something because in pk with low mana you cant do shit.. i much rather be a drow with a ton of mana and a extra defense, i can barely ever kill a drow maxxed remort.. my extra attacks dont do shit against them its not like i got much over everyone else, just 1 fucking attack.. oooooo
i cant cast spells but i got ONE more attack... oooo
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armor or not…damn, even my 3 year old niece can do math.
8 attacks, at full damage, averaging 300, is how much arkain? yes, 2400\. good...bc those of us that can count know that 300 times 8 is 2400.
now, sanc is half.
thats 1200.
that doesnt include vuln damage, or anything else.
and weapons actually average, give or take, like 360, depending...
and 360 times 8 is......*drumroll for arkain to count on his hands and feet, w00ps, too high to use!* 2880, by half, is 1440 a round with sanc. even if, in that example, AC kicks in and lowers the damage by a few hundred per round, you STILL get 1200 per round.
now, i have like a shitload more mana. doesnt do me any good if i have to burn it all healing...500 a round vs 1200 a round. i have to last twice as long as you do mana wise to be able to last long enough to burn yours out. and with 4500 hp, 1200 takes about.., yes counting again...4 rounds.
am i getting through to you? *does the aflecks "fictional characters retard stance" from jay and silent bob*
its not that hard to see, if you just open your eyes.
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o, and on a side, slightly related note…
back in the day, before all these changes...i was killing ppl with 1000 more hp and mana, and killing in droves. even i cant beat how the system functions when its changed, or altered, or anything else. so that crap about "i dont have any mana" doesnt fucking work with me. just something else for you to think about while you excuse your way outta the truth here.
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how many rounds do i actually hit 8 times soth? huh? you forget about defenses? i barely get 2-3 hits off in 1 round.. u say it like i get 8 hits every round, rofl…
