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I don't think so jazelle.
This is the way I see t, take it or leave it I really care not.
I like the gryphon idea for bird.
I could see a rodent race but don't really care as much as it would probably be aligned more towards evil and we're looking for neutral.
Out of those types, you ccould have a natural race, such as a treant or a dryad, which would have bonuses that could be hammered out later, and it would stay within the conceivable parameters of neutral. Also you could have as created a golem/doppelganger type race, created by the ancient druids of old to maintain the balance of good and evil in the world. I disagree with werebear as jazelle pointed out, it is a very common lycan. If you want to have a lycan make someone a werepanther or for somthing even more exotic, a were rhino?
Just some ideas for you people to flame.
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The most unnatural and most evil of all races… The were-lawyer.
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With natural steal, hunt, shift(yness), deception, haggle, pass door, bash, bar, …... you crazy?
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Immune to litigation, haggle, natural AC with paper work used for court cases.
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If you want some lycan type races, Lukus is the man to talk to. He knows all sorts of them. From your werewolves to your werecats to your werebears, and then to your Were-crocs, weresharks, and were-virgins. Okay I lied about were-virgins.
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Maybe Jaz remembers this, I'm pretty sure she was there too. I remember testing a feline race on the test port quite some time ago, although I don't really remember what their racial abilities were. Some sort of claw attack….*shrug* I forget. So there's probably a rogue bit of feline code lurking somewhere, waiting to appease the race hungry folk :wink:
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Felines can be fun ,an yeah I agree with Elmah. Lukus is the man to talk to about were things ….
-Thwaps at Elmah- Of course he knows where the were-virgin's are he's just keeping them a secret ..Okay thats my two penny uttered I think I'ma gonna hide behind that rock !
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> I don't think so jazelle.
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> I disagree with werebear as jazelle pointed out, it is a very common lycan.
Uh… did I miss something? I don't see a post by Jazelle in response to my post, talking about werebears.
And Inimical, the feline race you remember was Liger. The abilities I remember were roar and leap, though there may have been others.
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The coolest were-animal I have ever heard about was a were-leopard. And I think if we're going to be putting in new Neutral races it should only be one or two, not a lot. Or at least not all at once. That's too much to balance out when we're already constantly complaining about the balancing of everything.
Personally I think the two that should be put in are Were-creature, assuming it can be balanced, and a mechanical/cyborg race, as those would be unique to the already implimented races.
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Mechanical/Cyborg races have to be justified by the level of technology needed to produce such a thing to be present in the game. It doesn't make sense for such a thing to exist if the components that are required to make it haven't even been invented yet. :P
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Well I was told once that the setting of Sentience was fantasy, not medieval. So technically, anything could exist.
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This is fantasy, yes… not cyber-punk. :P Besides... where are all the mechanical devices that would accompany cyborgs? :P I want my Sentience TV!
Err... the theme of sentience just doesn't seem to lend itself very well to have a mechanical/cyborg race, unless it were created by gnomes, but they are notorious for creating disasterous inventions. ;)
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We have a million things in this game that don't fit well with RP, how worse could one more be? And as for the mechanical/cyborg race, you are being too closed minded about it. A mechanical device does not have to be some titanium alloy man. Maybe the race could be something along the lines of "An experimental race where surgeons molded metal to their body and sewed it under their skin, increasing their armor resistance, but dramatically lowering their dexterity and range of motion". There are many things you can do that aren't "high-tech" or "after it's time".
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Oh now that's just plain scary… O.O
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I'll admit it. I was thinking you all meant some sort of robot when talking about a created race. I hafta say that I wouldn't support that idea because the theme of sentience (although there are problems with it) just based on the zones seem to be similar to the times set up by books such as LotR.
However, if it was something similar to Wolverine from X-men I think there is potential there. Although, that feels more like a miniquest that only certain races could do.
I like the idea of the griffon and feline races best, but keep discussing. It feels like we're getting close to a general consensus
Oh, and we would only imp 1 race at a time for the balance issues someone mentioned earlier (Belexus, I think)
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> A griffon could be interesting, but you seem to give them way too much:
I also gave them impeded useage of weapons, unless wearing a specially made weapon for griffons, removed item slots so they can't wear some of the more decent items. Personally, armour not specifically not designed for a griffon, they shouldn't be able to use. Perhaps add a "modify" command to blacksmiths. Modify breastplate griffon. It wouldn't be cheap due to having to reshape the armor to fit on a griffon and probably a pain in the ass to code. Also, perhaps make them mountable if the griffon is following or allows you to follow. A nofol will buck the person off.
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That brings up another issue I've been meaning to address…
Why should every bit of armor be able to fit any race (disregarding the anti-* flags)? Something a dwarf could wear would probably be too small for humans, much less TITANS or MINOTAURS, to wear. Dragons, draconians and seraphs would have a tough time wearing body armor that doesn't fit around their wings. Minotaurs' horns would most likely interfere with a helmet that doesn't have them in mind when they were designed. And Siths, not sure about how their legs are supposed to exit, but I tend to invision a cobra with arms. Otherwise, they would just be another reptilian. Even if they DO have legs, their tail would get in the way for somethings.
An idea is to give each race some form type that each object would have to be set for, at least the wearable ones. It would be good to encompass size as well as the shape of the race. This could then lend itself to the creation of the "modify" command that Ithilidin suggested. :) This would make where you get your armor very important. Armor in Aethilforge should most likely be made for the dwarves that live and work there.
Anyways, my few cents.
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While that idea makes sense I wouldn't want to be the one stuck with going through every piece of existing equipment and adding these new flags that determine which races the armor is currently made for.
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Well friend, some things just can't be explained. Perhaps the magic that thrives in the world of Sentience causes armor to magically fit all races. As they don it, it magically shapes around their bodies.
Edit: No, I am not stoned.
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I thought that size was already on items. If not, then perhaps: Tiny, small, medium, large, giant. Medium sized can wear small and large, but at an AC disadvantage due to armour not fitting right.
Then we can remove titanic attack from titans, up damage for giant and large sized weapons. Titans and Minos can wield two-handed giant sized weapons, two-handed, regardless of race. Large sized two-handed weapons can be held in one hand, but useable with only a shield. For the other races, a medium sized race can wear a large sized one handed weapon with only a shield, if they have the strength to hold it. This will also make weaken a useful spell in PK.
There are other thoughts, but will leave it at this for now.
